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February 22, 2010

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Alex

You state that the bonus pool should be limited to one third of the profits so that the profits are distributed equally between each constituency (the traders, the shareholders and the capital reserve if I understand your reasoning correctly).

How about the losses? They are certainly carried by the share holders and the capital reserve. Will the traders pay-up as well from the bonusses they have collected over previous years? Or will they be exempted from sharing equally in the losses in this new grand scheme?

Chris Skinner

Good point Alex

Some of us would contend that the traders should be paid on a 'clawback' system where losses are offset against bonuses in previous years.

I understand the European Commission is considering this, based upon the fact that half the bonus pool is now paid in shares rather than cash, with limitations on how the shares can be traded.

Be interesting to see what happens.

Chris

Paul Fahey

Why place a 0.1% cap on an individual's share of the 33% bonus pool -- if it is agreed that the 33% is equitable, why limit an individual's upside? If he was responsible for 50% of the success is he not entitled to 50% of the return?

Chris Skinner

Hey Paul

Glad you picked that up as I hoped someone would.

The cap on an individual's pay within a bank is a suspicion I have that the regulators will introduce such a thing.

The reason is to avoid risk accumulating in a bank by getting those taking the biggest risks - and therefore generating the biggest rewards - out of the banking system and into the private equity and hedge fund markets, where many such rainmakers are today.

This means that banks will have limited ability to recognise individual talent and will be forced, instead, to spread reward.

The rainmakers will therefore leave and move to PE and HF groups, or banks will delist and become partnerships, like Goldman Sachs used to be.

The idea of a too big to fail bank, in public sharedholding, creating individual star rainmakers and rewarding them for a good year (or two) with no clawback ... those days are over.

Just a thought.
Chris

John Magill

Governments need to stop treating banks as an industry and get back to thinking of them as an enabling technology that allows the productive sectors of the economy to function. Exorbitant profits should not be paid out but should be ploughed back into industry to increase exports and consequently generate wealth. I have no problem with paying bonuses, but bonuses should be a small two digit percentage of an employee’s wage – 15% to 20%. A bonus should not be 300% to 1,000% of an employee’s wage! Why should be pay so much to gamblers? I would use this year’s bonus to send them all to Gamblers Anonymous.

Ajay Kumar

Individual Cap of 0.1% of revenue will basically inspire people to move to bigger banks, as bigger banks will have bigger profit so their 0.1% share would also be big, whereas smaller bank will have smaller profit and hence smaller individual bonus, note that the effort and contribution by the individual may be the same in both banks

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