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January 13, 2010

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Ron Clarke

If anyone doesn’t think the jobs will go, just refer back to the previous generation at Canary Wharf… I’m sure none of the traders and dockers thought their world would disappear in the 60’s & 70’s.

Dean Procter

Those job numbers really pale into insignificance compared with the losses for individual investors during the banking debacle.
The financial services industry was bloated beyond any rationale and I'm sure we'll all survive with a few less bankers.
How many middle men can an economy support - the banking industry would suggest an infinite number but the reality is far from that.
More bankers = more fees and experience suggests - more risktaking.
Perhaps the City would be better off with fewer bankers and more real tangible business? It is clear that there has to be some sort of hedge against future risktaking and the only way the government can hedge is to tax banks/ers and if the bankers merely move the government can tax transactions from those countries offering a haven for risktaking over-rewarded shonksters in pin-striped suits.
Whatever the current testimony suggests - the reality is that every single one of those bankers knew the risk they were engaged in and if they say they didn't they are either liars or incompetent - and either way they have no place in the financial industry.
I'd suggest buying them tickets to any haven at government expense and letting them become someone else's problem tomorrow.
A pocket full of real money is worth more than a truckload of funny money.

TZ

Arguments round this topic quickly become bileous and emotional out of all proportion. Most thinking people - and many of the rest, given time, would agree that it's not about bonuses...it's about bonuses paid for failure.
Tie bonuses very directly to performance, and everything's back in nice capitalistic balance...

Chris Skinner

@Ron

Too right

@Dean

You are so Mr. Angry! These numbers are v.significant at a country level, especially in our wee country where so much is dependent on banking. Not so important for a small place like Australia of course ;)

@TZ

I think you're agreeing with me: take out the emotion, and see some common sense.

Chris Skinner

More proof that bankers are leaving. This time for Switzerland:

http://business.timesonline.co.uk/tol/business/industry_sectors/banking_and_finance/article6986976.ece

Note paragraph near end of Page 2:

"It may be politically popular to tax the bankers — Labour earned a rare lift in the polls when the bonus levy was announced — but the government estimates that the top 1% of all taxpayers (many of whom work in finance) will pay 24% of all income tax in 2009-10. The top 5% pay 43% of the total. Tempting though it is to tax the rich as a way of blaming bankers for the crisis (which has cost every British family £12,000), most of them are super-mobile and don’t have to be here."

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