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Makarand Jadhav

Hi Chris,

Very thoughtful article, shows a lot of research behind this and logical sequencing of the points presented are really good.

Thanks

Makarand

Jeremy Kidd

Great analysis, Chris.

Michael Brown

Hi Chris,

An interesting speech and certainly relevant for financial services businesses but "invest in technology" is not a solution for real firms that actually make things. You can't make a BMW by sitting at home with a PC or writing a blog. You can have all the technology in the world but without the physical things (computers, comms infrastructure, buildings etc) that back it all up you have nothing. An economy without companies that make tangible assets is just a load of hot air.

The current crisis happened exactly because of complex derivatives which were ever further removed from the real physical assets that backed them up. In many ways, the technologies you speak of so highly are to industry what SIVs, CDOs, and CDSs are/were to mortgaged properties.

Regards,
Michael.

Chris Skinner

Michael

Interesting, and thank you for agreeing with me rather than arguing an alternative point.

In particular, I am not saying that all businesses run from a bedroom, just that some can. Technologies such as those to which I refer, are changing the economic model of all businesses that depends upon 'knowledge workers' as those workers can now work from home.

Second, I write about financial services which make no physical goods but sell promises which are digital based upon those very knowledge workers. Therefore, telling banks to invest in tech makes 100% sense.

Third, BMW or any other business invest massive amounts in tech too, to improve their physical supply chains and to innovate. A BMW without the technology on board today, would be a Model T.

Fourth, you mention the physical things that back things up and again you are talking about technology services. So you agree with me.

Finally, if the technologies I speak of so highly are the SIVs of industry, why are you saying you need the comms and computers? They are those technologies?

Chris

Marc

Hi Chris,
I really enjoyed reading this speech, and liked how you tied together what is currently ailing the world economy as well as how the banking landscape will fundamentally change (as will the healthcare landscape in the USA) as the result of decreasing technology costs (coupled with increasing access to said technology). On this topic, however, it will continue for start up firms to accomplish more than the establishment due to the legacy system costs. Most companies get hung up on the integration of new technology into an older platform, which results in costs ballooning (as you illustrated with your example above).

On the note about the crisis being caused by CDO/CDS exposure - I couldn't agree with you more. Michael Lewis has a great article in Conde Nast magazine, as does Christopher Whalen in the Nov 2008 Seeking Alpha edition.

One of my core beliefs is that the question is more important than the answer – ask a wrong question, get a wrong answer. I don’t think that the way out of the housing meltdown is to prop up banks – I think the way out is to deal with the main issue that has caused all this pain – the CDS contracts that backed all this debt. You’ll recall at dinner that I view these contracts as a form of insurance fraud (as there really wasn’t any intent by the party selling the contract to actually live up to it), and my solution would be to somehow invalidate these contracts.

As you stated above, there is over 55 TRILLION in CDO/CDS exposure - and while that doesn't equate to 55 Trillion in losses (as there will be some winners), the amount of exposure is simply something that can't be addressed by adding liquidity - the world just won't have enough (or won't be able to work together to provide enough).

The approach of using liquidity to address this issue is to me like trying to build a wall to protect against a Tsunami - it is unlikely that you'll be able to build a big enough wall to hold back the tide.

In the case of the Tsunami, the way to address the issue is to accept that there will be devastation, and then rebuild once the waters have receeded.

In the case of CDS/CDO obligations, I think the solution is the same - find a legal means to eradicate the CDS obligations so that the phantom "55 Trillion" obligation is drastically reduced to something manageable - so that the rebuilding of the financial system can begin.

What are your thoughts about this approach? Why exactly can't we deal with the true problem - the CDS/CDO swaps?

Monevator

Your points about the cost of technology coming down are well made.

I wonder though if there are other costs related to technology that will ramp up as a consequence.

Now companies no longer have to spend say your £50,000 per annum on web development, the barriers to entry have been dramatically lowered and the playing field leveled.

Given all websites are to *some extent* equal, I wonder if companies will now be spending that £50,000 a year instead on Google advertising, SEO research and building their brand through traditional marketing so consumers find and stay with their site, and not a rivals?

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Very interesting Chris. Your analysis seems probable. I along with many will be watching how everything unfolds over the next 5 years.

Jack W Plunkett

Chris, excellent, vital thoughts. Thanks for sharing them. You talk about a perfect storm coming together in 2014 or so, and you're absolutely right. However, there are even more factors invoved in the coming tech boom--much of it will involve nanotech, biotech and remote wireless sensors. Also, there will be considerable convergence between technologies (moving everything toward smaller, better, faster, cheaper). People interested in this line of thought will enjoy my new book The Next Boom, released in January 24 (see amazon, or see the Plunkett Research website for sample champters and related videos). Best wishes, Jack W. Plunkett

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